Alien Big Cats: Real Cats or Paranormal Beasts?

Kenny: [00:00:00] Imagine hiking through the misty British countryside or the dense Appalachian woods at dusk. When in your flashlight beam, you spot glowing eyes in the bushes, you freeze in your tracks. And looking closer, you see a massive black panther. But Panthers don't live here or do they? Welcome back to Enter the Rift podcast.

I'm your host Kenny. Join me as my brother and co-host Garrett. 

Garrett: Yo. 

Kenny: Today on this episode, we are gonna be talking about Alien big cats, 

Garrett: otherwise known as Joan Rivers. 

Kenny: Anyway, alien, so alien big cats. Also, they're sometimes known as phantom cats. [00:01:00] Are large felines that allegedly appear in regions outside their indigenous range.

So these really aren't, it's like part of cryptozoology, but it's not usually like something fantastical like Bigfoot dog man or, or anything kind of weird like that. Or like the Jersey devil rather. It's a known animal that's usually just seen far away from the normal range, but in unusual areas. 

Garrett: Or in areas where they were formerly populated but have since been labeled extinct air quote.

Well, 

Kenny: yeah. 

Garrett: Being sighted by the local population. 

Kenny: Yeah, pretty much. There is some like supernatural elements and like weird parts of it, and we'll get into that later in the show here. So this is a like a global phenomena, but a lot of the famous cases or a lot of what people talk about, it seems to be happening in the uk.

There have been reports of alien big cats. You'll also see it abbreviated a lot as ABC There's a lot of [00:02:00] reports in the UK spanning back decades, and it's usually happening in more rural areas like Dartmoor or Surrey. And, uh, one of the most famous of these cases is the, uh, the beast of Exmoor or the, uh, Surrey Puma.

And, in the, the US there's been tons of reports of like panthers being seen and, in the Appalachians sometimes, like even in Australia, there's like stuff like the Gippsland phantom cat, and there's also been like reports of weird, uh, ABCs being seen in the, the Blue Mountains. It's literally like all over the world.

Like every, almost every country has some kind of like alien big cat sighting. 

Garrett: Like, just touch briefly on, I work with multiple people in, you know, in my local area who have their own personal encounters with, uh, you know, seeing black mountain lions and all that kind of sort of stuff. So in the Great Cacapon West Virginia area is very prevalent [00:03:00] apparently, because I have talked to over five people.

That have all seen him and I have a possible sighting to myself, but I am not positive on it. 'cause it was only so brief. It could have just been a black bear. 

Kenny: Yeah. Which that's something we'll get into later. Like someone, one of the theories is just misidentification, but some of these people, they see 'em so well, it's clearly a cat they see.

It's not like a bear or a dog. 

Garrett: Yeah. I say my sighting was a possibility because it was over. Uh, I would say. A distance of 175 yards and moving at an angle. So I couldn't, it looked like it was a sleek, fast moving, you know, like feline, like animal. But at the same time, you know, you're looking at, uh, that's, that doesn't sound like a big distance until you, you realize you're in the woods and you're seeing it through trees and also moving at like a, you know, like a 30 degree angle from you.

So, yeah. Yeah, 

Kenny: a lot of the time these cats are seen by like hikers hunters or farmers. It's like [00:04:00] people who spend a lot of time out outside in the outdoors, and I guess that just increases the chances of having like a run in with a potential alien big cat. There are some reports of police officers seeing them as well, and usually they're described as having sleek black fur and being unusually large.

So, which was what, how you were saying a lot of people seem black ones, so sometimes. In some of the cases it's just like a, uh, described as beige. So it's like a puma or a mountain lion being seen. Yeah, just in areas that they really shouldn't be. And there's usually, there's little physical proof of these cats.

Sometimes there's blurry photos and like paw prints were found, and sometimes there's like evidence of like a cat den and, and some, there's even like livestock deaths. 

Garrett: So essentially same amount of evidence as Bigfoot. 

Kenny: Kind of there's, but there's, but there's been no confirmed capture of an alien big cat that I'm aware of.

Uh, there's been like, there's evidence that a [00:05:00] cat's been there. Hmm. We're not talking about little, like, house cats. This is something that's usually like a lot bigger. 

Garrett: And we're not talking like a a, we're not talking bobcat slash lynx either. 

Kenny: No. So these are usually like large cats, like the size of mountain lions to African lions.

And, and how that's how big they are. So like, pretty big, you know, something you really wouldn't wanna run, run into. I know. Yeah. Something that can get its 

Garrett: jaws around your, you know, the crown of your head, you know, something fun like that. 

Kenny: Yeah. Like I, I saw this, uh, this image the other day of like one of the most painful, like neanderthal deaths.

And it was like a picture of like, uh, like a saber tooth tiger driving. Its fore teeth into the eye sockets of a neanderthal like from the back, like bit on its head like. Oh, oh. But yeah, like could you imagine you're just hanging out with your neanderthal homies and outta the bushes a saber tooth tiger. Comes out and like leeches.

It's like two [00:06:00] like from behind, like it's fish hooks, you through the eyeballs, fish hooks you through the eyeballs. Yeah. Like God. 

Garrett: Okay. Ok. Do ok.

Just, yeah. Just watch our homie get freaking, you know, picked off. Like he's getting fondue

. Stabbed just a freaking 

Kenny: turn his head into a balling balls. 

Garrett: Yeah. Just freaking fish hook him. 

Kenny: Yeah. Anyway, um, let's get into some eyewitness. Or eyewitness cases, or maybe some just like 

Garrett: eyewitness 

Kenny: his eyes, witnessed the end.

Um, yeah. But, uh, we'll get into some, some cases here. So let's go to the beast of Exmoor. So in 1983, a farmer in South Olten, a small town in the southern English county of Devon, reported a starting loss in livestock. Over a hundred sheep had been killed over a period of three months, and apparently they were violently killed.[00:07:00] 

Their throats had been slashed across, and for many, the slaughter confirmed. The area's vague, but persistent legend cited since the early seventies of a large possibly phantom cat named for the hilly morland. It was said to roam, and they called it the beast of Exmoor The public reacted swiftly. The Daily Express offered the equivalent of a $1,600 reward for a video footage of the beast.

More surprisingly, the British government sent a group of Royal Marine snipers into the hills to find and possibly kill the creature. It was making that much uproar in livestock death. The seriousness which they treated the mission can probably be addressed to the name they gave it though. Operation Beastie.

Still the snipers looked for three nights until the Ministry of Defense called off the search. Due to concerns they might mistakenly shoot one of several reward seeking amateur photographers about to be on the same hunt. Did the Ministry of Defense really not trust their snipers enough that they think they're just going to clap a photographer in the [00:08:00] middle of the night?

Yeah, 

Garrett: but like. Isn't one of your SOPs, like, basically like, yeah, make a positive identification of Target. You know, like, like, isn't that like, like you, you know, just skip that part. Don't go through that. Just, yeah. Shoot. What moves. 

Kenny: Yeah. It was taken, at least it was taken seriously enough that they actually sent a team of snipers to go looking for it and a hundred over a hundred sheep killed in a, uh.

Three month period. That's like pretty crazy. 

Garrett: Yeah, that's actually like really astounding a number. 

Kenny: Yeah. Is 

Garrett: it 300? 

Kenny: Over a hundred. 

Garrett: Oh, over a hundred. I I said 300. I was like that. Holy shit. But over a hundred's still pretty, pretty high. Yeah. A 

Kenny: hundred over three months. So like, or not that long of a time span.

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: Then we can go to the, uh, the Surrey Puma. So on July 16th, 1962, a water management official by the name of Ernest Jellet [00:09:00] reportedly saw a large cat hunting a rabbit. So Jellett, in his spare time, was an amateur zoologist. Uh, so he described the animal as resembling a small lion. It was beige color and had a thick but not fluffy tail.

He believed it may have been a puma, so also called a cougar. A mountain lion. 

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: So he called the police to report that. So the police were notified and they actually found traces of a large predator living in the area. Jellett's account, then made it to the local newspaper, and when it did, many people who saw a similar animal, but they didn't wanna report it due to fear of ridicule, came forward to report their sightings.

So that made a little buzz around the area for a little bit. Activity. died down for a while, but then two years later, some farm workers reported a large cat making a terrifying noise, and that was corroborated by more people than just the two farm workers. They also found a cow that was killed and shredded to pieces by an unknown creature.

A vet came to the, the scene and he wasn't able to identify the teeth marks so that he, he couldn't tell what kind of animal killed the [00:10:00] cow there. And there were so many reports that in August of 1964, that locals, farmers decided to organize a hunt for the cat. So they got out, I don't know the torches and pitchforks and they're going cat hunting.

Garrett: Did, did the straight up classic. Yep. These are the village people. Yeah. And we're not talking about YMCA, 

Kenny: but they, they weren't able to capture or kill the animal, but they did find more evidence that a large cat lived there. They sound, uh, they found paw prints in the remains of a den. And so that sent locals into a hysteria.

There were so many sightings that they believed. There was some belief actually, that there was a mass escape from a zoo. 

Garrett: Now, where was this area again? 

Kenny: It's, uh, in, in Surrey, in the uk. 

Garrett: Well, well, it could have just been some, like, you know, some Saudi who was out on vacation and was like, well, I can't bring it home.

It's too big now. It just was like, get out countryside, drop it off. 

Kenny: What? Oh, I, this was back in the sixties. I don't know if [00:11:00] that was happening too much, but, uh, 

Garrett: I don't know. Arab oil tycoon, maybe. I have no idea. 

Kenny: All the zoos in that area denied any claims of having any kind of escape, 

Garrett: which also, again, this is the sixties, who's gonna back it up and be like, really investigate?

It'd be like, nah, we're not missing anything. Meanwhile, everybody in, in that office is shitting themselves behind the phone 

Kenny: Maybe. In this hysteria though, most of the tracks that were found were later attributed to be like a Fox or a large dog's tracks. So it's just like, it's like hell of a jump. 

Garrett: Yeah.

So just definitely misidentification. 

Kenny: Yeah. But in September, so a month later, there were traces that were actually confirmed to be left by a puma near Monstead, that that information became public and once again caused a panic. 'cause people think there's a mountain lion roaming around in an area where there, there is no large predators.

'cause they were all killed off like hundreds or thou hundreds to like a thousand years ago, you know? 

Garrett: Right. Yeah. 

Kenny: With that panic, there [00:12:00] was a puma sightings being reported at least once a week. So in the two to three years following it, it was reported 362 times. So a safari was actually organized with, with actual well-equipped hunters.

And they were coming to Surrey, hoping to shoot the cat and claim it as a trophy. Uh, there were some reports of like a farmer shooting a large cat, but it wasn't confirmed. So like, maybe he was just saying it to like say, oh yeah, I shot the puma, and like, 

Garrett: yeah, it, yeah, it, it ran off. Where's my reward? 

Kenny: Yeah.

Right. 

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: So those were never really confirmed, but uh, 

Garrett: meanwhile he just shot a house cat. Yeah, didn't go check and look, 

Kenny: there were some actually some more evidence of the large cats in the uk. There were apparently, like some 15-year-old boy found a leopard skull in a creek, but they said that that was just actually from a Persian rug because the back of the skull was cut in a similar fashion of how it's mounted for like, you know how you [00:13:00] see like those rugs where it still had like the animal head on it?

So people said like, that was just from a rug. But 

Garrett: yeah, probably somebody was like, this thing's rotten. It's starting to stink. They threw it out and it went down to some local dump, 

Kenny: but the dude found a actual like large cat skull. So that made people even more panic. Freaking out. Freaking out. 

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: That there was actually like big cats running around in the uk.

Garrett: Yeah. But just think also how dope is that defined? That's like you're just like, oh shit. Yeah. 

Kenny: That'd be cool as shit. I'd keep that on my desk. That'd be like, yeah, I'd make a case for it and everything. That'd be cool. That'd be 

Garrett: dope. 

Kenny: So that's pretty cool. A lot of these sightings happened in like the sixties to eighties, but there's still even like newer sightings.

So like in 2005, near Devon, uh, a driver, um, was driving along the road and they saw a cat apparently as big as a Labrador jump and vanish into a hedgerow. So like Labrador. Pretty big. 

Garrett: Yeah. And for a cat, 

Kenny: that's [00:14:00] massive. 

Garrett: Yeah. that'd make you wanna shit yourself 

Kenny: Yeah. So like I couldn't imagine seeing something like that big there, you know?

Garrett: Yeah. It'd be like, ah, well when you're going to take the trash out to the bin, you're gonna be definitely thinking about that now, aren't you? 

Kenny: Right. 

Garrett: You get home that night, you're like, ah, you believe that scene from SpongeBob just freaking like screaming and running into the can and running back into the door.

Kenny: The hash slinging, slasher. Yeah. Jump jumping, uh, across the pond as they say to the us there has been like reported sightings of black panthers in the Appalachians. A lot of it's in like Kentucky and West Virginia, but a lot of sightings have been from like eastern Kentucky. So that area, which is pretty rural, if you've ever driven through that area.

So some personal sightings. Uh, so this person says one sighting that was at my mother-in-law's, and it was between midnight to one in the morning, I'd stepped out to the front porch to smoke. And notice two large yellow eyes at the approach of her driveway. [00:15:00] And notice that was another big Cooter Cooter.

It was another big cougar sized black cat. And this was in Elliot County, Kentucky. Upper a holler called Rocky Brach, uh, road. You the them big old Cooters. 

Garrett: Yeah, just, um. Leaving tracks. 

Kenny: Yep. About another sighting. It says, about a year ago I lived on an 80 acre property. One morning I was sitting outside on my porch and I looked towards my barn and there was a black panther standing there staring at me.

I told my husband he saw it too, and he confirmed it was a black panther. It turned around and left, and then our neighbor said he saw it a few days before on his property. I lived in Crittendon County at the time. This, this, this one here is kind of crazy. I'm in Simpson County. Years ago, several people reported sightings of a big black cat.

From the tip of his tail to his nose was reported to be 10 feet. 

Garrett: That sounds many Did not believe it. Yeah, 

Kenny: I only heard about it, but I was in a cave [00:16:00] in the piddens mill area looking for arrowheads, and there was a little washed out spot. And in that spot I found a really big feline tooth. So the people knew what they saw.

10 feet from nose to tail. That's like tiger size or bigger. Yeah. How big is a liger?? 

Garrett: Like, yeah. Okay. Uh, so would this be like what, like possible time slip for like the North American lion or something? 

Kenny: I don't know, 

Garrett: like, like 10 feet sounds freaking like huge. That's like the length of a car. 

Kenny: Yeah. That is like, that is a massive animal.

Another sighting here. Uh, it's been about 15 years ago in Lewis County. Me and my uncle and three other people all saw one in the space of a week or two. My uncle was the first. I saw it two or three days after him. Then within a couple days, someone else saw it. A few days after that it was spotted again.

I don't know if anyone else saw it after that. We never heard anyone who said they did anyway, but so there's multiple people in a family seeing [00:17:00] a big black cat. This one's actually from Western Kentucky. My neighbor's dogs chased a black cougar from the woods. She was walking down the road and it ran out in front of her.

She quit walking after that experience, a week or two before that, six of us were sitting outside on my porch and all of us saw a mountain lion walk across the lower part of our yard, across the road and into the cornfield. A game warden down the road told us that they were moving back into Kentucky. I live in rural Benton, Kentucky, an area in Western Kentucky.

I mean, there are Melanistic. Mountain lions or any animal fur can be what's called Melanistic where they produce a large amount of black pigment. So that would make their fur completely black, but like that's really rare. 

Garrett: And I mean, there are like a lot of, um, well, historical records of, you know, mountain Lions being in the, the Appalachian area.

It's just that they were said to be hunted out. Yeah. So [00:18:00] first the possibility of, you know, population to, I don't know, start if there was just at least, you know, still at least a few breeding pairs. I mean, it could come back and you could get, when thta's melanized, it's like reality. 

Kenny: And one of the theories that people are saying is actually, it's just at least in the United States, is Mountain lions are actually just migrating back eastward.

A single male mountain lion can actually like travel up to like a thousand miles or something, 

Garrett: which is yeah, pretty crazy. Their, uh, their average like travel distance per, like, I don't know how they would measure it at, like if it's per day or if it's per like week or something like that. I think I saw something where it was like they, they generally stay within a hundred and like 30 mile area where they usually tend to like the roam and shit.

Kenny: The females tend tend to stay. They have a smaller range. They tend to stay in a smaller area, whereas the male mountain lions will actually travel farther. But there [00:19:00] has been more confirmed, uh, sightings of mountain lions, repo, repopulating, the Midwest. There's been site like reports in like Illinois, I know in like the upper peninsula of Michigan, Wisconsin.

There's actually been sightings in Georgia and everything too, so pretty far east, but there is mountain lions, or at least there's a subspecies of mountain lion in Florida. So maybe those are just like the Floridian Mountain lions like migrating north. But that's one of the theories that for why people are seeing these big cats in the eastern United States is that it's just mountain lions.

Moving back to those areas though, a lot of times DNR officials will still deny mountain lions. 

Garrett: Yeah, and I can say that for like. Firsthand, you know, research on the subject. 'cause I have a possible sighting and many of my coworkers do as well. When I was testing my, my hammock out for, before we would go camping and stuff, I set it up in the backyard, slept in it for a night, uh, kept hearing weird noises.

And then the next [00:20:00] day from about 175 yards ish away, the saw just, you know, it looked. Feline ish, but large, black, you know, streaking Fruit of woods, but you know, woods 170 yards is, eh, you're not getting the best visual, you know. Sighting, you know, from that distance. But, uh, it looked kind of feline sound kind of creepy from the noises I heard at night.

And I looked up, you know, on YouTube, you know, what did a mountain lion sound like? Sounded damn near similar, um, if not the same shit. And then the next day going into work, talked to like five people, all of 'em, saying that in the, you know, they all live within like the great Cacapon in West Virginia area.

So. They were all saying like, yeah, about the same, same eyes, you know, like the tail, like length of the body kind of situation. Like a, you know, a mountain lion but just black. And uh, one of my coworkers, he said he almost hit it with his truck when he was coming into work like two years ago. 

Kenny: Damn. Okay. So yeah, maybe mountain lions [00:21:00] are coming back.

I mean, I know for the longest time. They said like coyotes weren't in like the, on the eastern part of the U US or at least where we were. But now they're there and they're officially there. I've seen coyotes. I've heard coyotes. Oh yeah. Coyo. 

Garrett: Oh, yeah. I, I heard them take a deer down in the backyard with my, when my window is open, 

Kenny: but like if coyotes can come back, why can't

Mountain lions, you know? 

Garrett: Yeah. Or possibly even I, isn't Kentucky even like having like Coy Wolf now or is that more That I'm not sure about West Coast. I'm not sure. I know there's, um, the American, uh, red Wolf is ha has like a small population I think in Georgia or something like that. Florida, North Carolina area, something like that.

Yeah. I dunno. 

Kenny: But yeah, that could be just be like, you know, predators were coming back, so that's why people are seeing them. 

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: Another like theory for more like the non paranormal, more like a more [00:22:00] rational explanation, I guess I could say, is that it's just escaped exotic pets, like you were saying earlier.

Garrett: Yeah. Some, some guy just has one, you know, and just was like, well, I gotta get rid of it and I'm not going to be able just to shoot one. 'cause that's, you know. 

Kenny: Yeah. So I guess it was actually legal to own big cats in the UK up until 1976. Uh, so in 76 the UK passed the Dangerous Wild Animals Act, and the law states that no person shall keep any dangerous wild animal except under the authority of a license granted, in accordance with the provisions of this act by local authority.

So the law require that anyone owning like a, any kind of exotic animal have their premises inspected. And it's thought that very few of these people would've actually like passed the inspection. So it's theorized that a lot of people simply released and abandoned their pets into the wild, and that caused like a huge spike in these sightings.[00:23:00] 

So some of these sightings occurred in like the sixties that wouldn't, that would've been before this act was passed. But there was a lot of sightings also into the eighties and nineties. So I mean, the average lifespan for a big cat is like. Eight to 15 years. So in the wild was probably closer to eight, but, um, if they got out, they could be, there's plenty of food, there's rabbits, livestock that maybe what people were seeing were, were exotic pets that got out in a, were living in the, in the countryside for a while.

Garrett: Yeah. I mean, it's perf perfectly reasonable to think that, you know, of all they were doing was like predating or pre, you know, eating, you know, farm, you know, animals and all that kind of stuff. I mean, they could live for years. I mean, anybody who knows anything about the, uh, Texas camels knows that they lived for like freaking decades and they were just out there roaming around.

Kenny: Oh, cool. I didn't know there was camels in Texas. Yeah. Pretty cool. Another theory is something Not anymore. 

Garrett: They're long dead. [00:24:00] Oh, okay. Yeah. This is, this is like Mexican American war era, but they lived for like 15 years after that, or 20 years. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Some of 'em, I think, actually might have lived up to like, maybe like 30 years after being, uh, brought over from Egypt.

Kenny: Okay. 

Garrett: Yeah, 

Kenny: another like rational theory that people is just, just misidentification. They think it's either like a large house cat, a dog, or maybe like shadows mistaken for panthers, usually in low light situations. So that's definitely possible. So I guess with like a large house cat, there could be like an issue of like reference objects to get the scale right.

So 

Garrett: yeah, along with like being dusk or dawn and where light maybe hitting. 

Kenny: So if you don't have a, an object there to compare the animal to, it's, sometimes it's actually hard to determine how big something actually is. So like, could house cats be [00:25:00] misidentified or seem to be a lot larger than they actually are?

Maybe. You know, maybe some guy got spooked by a large cat, like a large house cat, and it was all black and he got scared. Oh my God. It was a panther. 

Garrett: Yeah, maybe. Or what's the largest, um, domestic cat breed that you can get? 

Kenny: Uh, either a Maine coon, like a Coon or a Savannah, I think, yeah, I 

Garrett: mean, maybe it was like a, somebody had a, a Savannah cat and it was in a shadow.

Kenny: Maybe they're usually like spotted though, and not all black, but who knows. 

Garrett: Yeah. M, maybe it was melanated. Just throw that. That's gonna be the default now is just, maybe it was a melanated something. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, I, yeah. 

Kenny: There's also some people theorizing that it could be like a surviving native species like, like there are some European lynxes, but some people are saying that.

Uh, maybe it was possibly the Eurasian Cave [00:26:00] Lion, Panthera Spalaea. So that was something that lived like back in, like, kind of like the ice age kind of, and it, it died off with when all the mega fauna died. So I. Yeah, like wooly mammoths, dire wolves, saber tooth cats, um, giant ground sloths, all like the really big like ice age animals.

It's, it kind of died off when, when they did, and there's not a whole lot of like evidence now that said it survived past that. So, I mean, 

Garrett: yeah, I think that that theory is kind of shot. 

Kenny: Yeah. If there was like a large, less, like a time 

Garrett: slip. 

Kenny: Maybe, right. If there was like a large cat surviving, you'd think there'd be more like paleontology evidence, you know?

Garrett: Yeah. Like you'd have more, I don't know, intact, you know, remains, yeah. At least more common to find them. Maybe 

Kenny: you, you would think. But I, I think of all the, the theories we discussed so far, it's probably just like escaped exotic pets. 

Garrett: Yeah. Probably. [00:27:00] Or people bullshitting. 

Kenny: Yeah, that 

Garrett: too. You know, the good old, I saw this thing and it was this big holding into arms, full length out.

Meanwhile, it was something like, you know, tiny. 

Kenny: Yeah. Now as we get into the, uh, spooky woo side of things, yeah, that's, that's always fun. You know, so some people say that alien, big cats are just like ghostly apparitions or inter dimensional beings, especially sighted in like hot supernatural hotspots. So there have been several sightings of large back cats in or near crop circles.

Garrett: So actual alien, big cats, 

Kenny: maybe around Wilshire, Wilshire. And there been several 

Garrett: Worchester Wooster, no Worchester sire sauce. 

Kenny: Yes. There's also been several seen around Chartley Castle. So you got, I got a haunted castle with alien big cats or like ghostly panthers. So this is like 

Garrett: some Scooby-Doo spooky woo shit.

Kenny: Some people say that, uh, alien, big [00:28:00] cats are actually like shapeshifters tied to folklore. So in some old folklore, like witches would turn into like big cats or something like that. So like, 

Garrett: oh, Nagloushi 

Kenny: except in, in the uk. So it's just some. Some witch in her hut and she turns into a big black cat. 

Garrett: It, it, it's, it's what them creepy, uh, furries on Tumblr wish they could do.

Kenny: And there's also been some people who've had reported cases of seeing an an alien big cat and then having visits from the women in black. So like, like the men in black, but like. It's a female version. 

Garrett: Oh man. If it's anything like dealing with female cops, man, don't, don't freaking make any set of movements.

She'll freakin expecto my scrotum Oh my God. She'll draw that wand on you. 

Kenny: Draw that wand on you. 

Garrett: Yeah. Uh, she got the wand with the switch.[00:29:00] 

Kenny: God, high speed magic missile. Yeah. 

Garrett: My God. Some. I'm just imagining a Harry Potter in Compton. 

Kenny: Oh my 

Garrett: God. God,

Jesus. Yeah. Moving on, 

Kenny: moving on. Uh, some people say like the ABC's kind of echo. The Myths, like the UK's black dog, which is pretty famous. So it's like instead of a dog it's a black cat. 

Garrett: Cat. Yeah. 

Kenny: Like we said, some, there's been a lot of sightings occur in areas that have other paranormal activities. So hauntings or a lot of UFO activity, they'll, they'll see those as well.

And some people say they'll look kind of more like a glitch creature or interdimensional, so like they'll. They're creatures going through interdimensional rifts. And then that could explain why they can vanish outta thin air. 

Garrett: This is some heman shit, right? 

Kenny: Battle battlecat. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Is that it?

[00:30:00] Yeah. But uh, so let's get into some stories of some like weird stuff. So there was a person by the name of Eileen Allen, and she says that she caught on the side of a big black panther while she was visiting the Cannock chase in the later part of 1996. She experienced overwhelming shock, seeing the immense beast lurking near a headstone in one of the local cemeteries.

It was staring intently in her direction. She was absolutely terrorized and baffled when the creature just suddenly vanished. So she was staring at it and then all of a sudden it was just gone. And when that happened, she just heard a sound that she described like an electricity cracking crackling noise, which.

Some weird electrical or metallic noises. It's reported a lot when people are dealing with things that are supposedly interdimensional. So like things that just vanish outta nowhere. A lot of times you'll hear like a metallic clinging or electricity noise, so that's kind of unusual. 

Garrett: Sounds almost just like demonic.

Kenny: I mean, [00:31:00] maybe So another person by the name of, uh, Bob Parker experienced. Something similar in the woods. About a quarter of a mile or so from a cemetery in late 2000 when he was walking his dog on one Sunday morning, a large black cat came hurling violently through the heather and skidded into the pathway that he was walking on and then bounded off.

Apparently not at all bothered by him or his dog there. 

Garrett: Well, that would make you wanna shit yourself, 

Kenny: right? He said, me and the dog just froze solid. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. But when the cat got about 50 feet from us, it literally sort of dived at the ground. It took sort of a leap up and then almost dive bombed the path, and it went right through it and vanished just like that.

The cat just like, like jumped into a portal in the ground and just disappeared. I. 

Garrett: Yeah, definitely more the spooky woo side. 

Kenny: Yeah. So another story from the late sixties, a woman by the name of Sally Ward and her husband were walking across the Cannock chase on what was a [00:32:00] wintry and foggy morning, and then they almost stumbled, literally stumbled upon what she described with a black panther.

I. That was sitting bolt upright on an open stretch of ground to their left and approximately 30 feet from them. What was really weird besides the, just the huge beast was there were seven or eight other cats, but they were like normal pet cats. Uh, she was sure that they weren't like kittens of the large cat, but were the sort of cats anyone would own.

Garrett: That's some spooky woo shit. 

Kenny: She, she said, I don't know anything about panthers and lions and tigers, but I know a normal cat when I see one. And they said rather strangely, all the smaller cats were staring in almost hypnotic fashion and in complete silence at the large cat as if they were transfixed by its presence.

Garrett: That is some fairytale shit, right? 

Kenny: Yeah. So there's like a group of like eight cats sitting in a circle staring at the big black cat. Like 

Garrett: it sounds like something like a, you would see in like a studio Ghibli movie. 

Kenny: Right? 

Garrett: Yeah. 

Kenny: Supposedly like her husband wanted to report [00:33:00] the encounter to the police, but Sally pleaded otherwise to just remain silent.

Garrett: She'd be like, don't you do that? We're gonna sound like we're freaking batshit. 

Kenny: Right? Yeah. So like there's been several cases of like people just like, just of like people seeing the cats and they just like dematerialize or vanish or like really weird things. So another one here. A large black cat was seen in the company of a werewolf type beast.

Garrett: What is this? Some freaking, uh, like Dracula freaking versus the Wolf Man kind of thing. 

Kenny: Well, if you think that black cats could be shapeshifters or witches, maybe it's like a witch and a Hexen wolf who, who got his, uh, belt and ointment from Satan and he's got, so you got the werewolf guy and a witch and they're rolling out through the.

Through the, the woods and their beast forms. 

Garrett: This is definitely some, some like Tumblr fanfic level shit now. 

Kenny: I don't know. It's, I think that's kind of, uh, it's a fun story though. It's kind of, yeah, there have been, a couple people have seen, [00:34:00] they've seen large black cats exiting landed UFOs. There are both in Yorkshire County.

Those reports from in 68 and 82, so that's kind of interesting. So like, that's just like really neat. I, I think, I think, 

Garrett: mm-hmm. I mean, those are definitely like the funner stories. 

Kenny: Right. Could you, could you imagine like saying that there was a person, uh, I guess by the name of Barbara Brandelini, who claimed she was a witch and she claimed that she was, she was the one that were responsible for the sheep killings, like the ones that happened like in for the Beast of Exmoor

She said that she actually became the panther herself and killed the sheep. 

Garrett: This bitch sounds like she has no life and is in desperate need of attention. 

Kenny: Yeah. She said, I will appear as a big cat in Hepstonstall. People tend to think it all belongs in books and so on, but it does not. It's very real. I. So he said, interesting, although no big cat was seen in Heptonstall, [00:35:00] strange animal noises were heard in and around the village of Brandon, uh, in the wake of Brandelini's statement.

Uh, 

Garrett: okay. So the bitch went around in the woods at, in, you know, around people's properties and was squealing and hollering like a retard. 

Kenny: I mean, maybe it, it wouldn't be hard to make like weird animal cat noises. I mean, some people already say like a Lynx sound or a bobcat sounds like a woman screaming.

Anyway, so like. 

Garrett: Yeah, I mean, so the, you got, you got three possibilities right here. Uh, a bitch with mental illness such as schizophrenia and also maybe like starred for attention. So now she just wants to make up stories on top of her own. She thinks she's a, you know, 

Kenny: shape shifting witch YY 

Garrett: yeah. Uh, so you got that going on, uh, either.

Actual like spooky woo demonic bullshit, or somebody just playing along with the, the crazy bitches thing and they're, they're going out and making noises because, you know, they saw that bullshit and they're like, oh yeah, we're okay. We got it. You [00:36:00] know, this is gonna be great. You know, this is gonna make the newspapers, this is gonna be the whole talk of the town thing, you know?

So we're all going sneak out and we're gonna make a bunch of weird ass retard noises 

Kenny: maybe. 

Garrett: Yeah, I mean, I mean. It that's possible. That is, that, that is my breakdown of possibility on here. And I'm leaning more towards, uh, the first and the latter. It just, just because it's just You 

Kenny: mean crazy bitch mean you don't, you don't think it's actually someone who made a deal with the devil and can turn into a big black panther?

Garrett: No. 

Kenny: just No 

Garrett: Not at all. 

Kenny: I think it would be interesting if it's like an interdimensional cat, like it's a cat that phases in, in and out of this plane. 

Garrett: Yeah, I mean, I mean that idea sounds sounds pretty cool. That sounds like something straight out of an anime, but 

Kenny: I mean maybe, but Well, one person did report hearing the electric crackling noise, and that's been reported in other cases where things suddenly materialize or [00:37:00] dematerialize.

Yeah. 

Garrett: I mean, you're be like, this is where you get to the, I'm, I'm 14 and this is deep, you know, kind of like level of like this, this would be cool. It'd be like in the book of job when it says Satan was roaming to and fro over the earth, and he is like a, a, a lion looking for whom he may destroy. It's literally just like, yeah, he's, he's a lion and he, he literally, uh, shifts in and out of reality, like a, like a lion through a portal to and fro the earth.

Kenny: Oh my god. 

Garrett: Like, like the it, it's literally like that dog. 

Kenny: Like,

oh my gosh, that would be like. That'd be crazy too. 

Garrett: Yeah. It'd be like this. This is like the, uh, definitely how like, you know, like you get like a lot of Japanese anime, they'll take like random bits of like westernism and like religion and stuff and just use it for like hyperbolic. This is cool shit for teenagers.

Kenny: Yeah. So I definitely think it, it probably is as an escaped pet. But man, I really would like [00:38:00] to believe there's some kind of like spooky paranormal stuff going on with people seeing, like in the UK anyway, probably like you're not over 

Garrett: here where I'm at, but like if you guys gotta deal with it, that'd be tight.

Kenny: Yeah. I think here it's just mountain lions coming back, but over there 

Garrett: Y's got like shape shifting. It's 

Kenny: these, uh, satanic schizophrenic witches. Turning into big black cats terrorizing the town, 

Garrett: otherwise known as my ex-fiancee, crazy schizophrenic witch.

Kenny: Oh my God. 

Garrett: You gotta hit him with that boomer humor.

Kenny: Anyway. If you enjoyed this episode of Enter the Rift podcast, please like, subscribe, share it with your friends, and don't get taken out by a schizophrenic Satanic witch in her battlecat form. [00:39:00] 

Garrett: [00:40:00] Peace.